I did the lion diet for about 3 months my starting weight was 180lb
I ate beef to satiety for 2 months which ended up being 3-4 pounds of chuck beef so more than 200g of protein a day. I didnt eat butter or excess fat on top of that.
I GAINED about 12 pounds during that time but i lost a lot of viceral fat (waist 37 inch -> 34 inch)
Id share any bloodwork if i had any but i didnt do any during that period.
I also got pregnant for the first time in my life, realizing my copper IUD had been displaced for the past 8 years. Doing absolutely nothing... The entire time... I ended the diet due to that but in the end I lost the pregnancy in the first trimester.
So i would say that "too much" protein definitely can cause weight gain and exasperate obesity. but given my overall health and fertility improved during that period, im still on the side of "to satiety" carnivore diet being on the "good" end. Still, some form of restriction on top of that is a requirement for weight loss.
I'm not a big fan of the word "restriction" but I agree with the spirit of your answer. Fundamentally an energy deficit is the result an optimal diet will achieve but is not a mechanism one should have to use/play with.
Lion diets can work for some, for sure, and for some time.
I did it for a while too my general well being and skin improved but my energy totally tanked. Now that I know how a body detoxes and how inhibitory a carnivore diet is to that I really don't see it as a sustainable option for me.
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I did the lion diet for about 3 months my starting weight was 180lb
I ate beef to satiety for 2 months which ended up being 3-4 pounds of chuck beef so more than 200g of protein a day. I didnt eat butter or excess fat on top of that.
I GAINED about 12 pounds during that time but i lost a lot of viceral fat (waist 37 inch -> 34 inch)
Id share any bloodwork if i had any but i didnt do any during that period.
I also got pregnant for the first time in my life, realizing my copper IUD had been displaced for the past 8 years. Doing absolutely nothing... The entire time... I ended the diet due to that but in the end I lost the pregnancy in the first trimester.
So i would say that "too much" protein definitely can cause weight gain and exasperate obesity. but given my overall health and fertility improved during that period, im still on the side of "to satiety" carnivore diet being on the "good" end. Still, some form of restriction on top of that is a requirement for weight loss.
Thank you for sharing!
I'm not a big fan of the word "restriction" but I agree with the spirit of your answer. Fundamentally an energy deficit is the result an optimal diet will achieve but is not a mechanism one should have to use/play with.
Lion diets can work for some, for sure, and for some time.
I did it for a while too my general well being and skin improved but my energy totally tanked. Now that I know how a body detoxes and how inhibitory a carnivore diet is to that I really don't see it as a sustainable option for me.