Interesting. One of the comments captures what I definitely had for the first 30 or so years of my life: I was, at any point in my life, basically ravenous, and food never gave me satiety. I could eat until I was physically bloated and it hurt, but I wasn't satiated. Insofar, "full" always seemed like a polite metaphor to me; of course I was full, but the pain was the only thing making me stop eating.
But all that went away within 6-12 months of starting keto. So I haven't really had "food noise" in 8+ years.
Maybe that's why I stuck with keto for so long; incredible quality of life change independent of actually losing/regaining fat.
I do think that "food noise" is basically your body starving on a biochemical level. You might have just eaten food, you might have lots of body fat you should theoretically be able to use. But your body somehow isn't able to get at it and so it is starving, and telling you that.
"Maybe that's why I stuck with keto for so long; incredible quality of life change independent of actually losing/regaining fat."- We see this for many people!
"I do think that "food noise" is basically your body starving on a biochemical level." - I think this is one of many drivers
Food Noise is SO REAL. It’s NOT willpower- it’s addiction and obsession. IT runs your life. The ONLY thing that I have found that absolutely calms it to a dull roar or COMPLETELY shuts it down is the No Carb ruminant meat Carnivore diet. Incredibly healing on all levels, incredibly freeing. I cannot overstate how EFFECTIVE this change in food intake is. I also know that taking 2K of l-tryptophan every night helps. Apparently they have now just discovered a small virus particle that lives in the brain and affects the tryptophan cycle in people who have this FOOD NOISE. Look up Nick Norwitz Food Addiction Virus vid on YouTube.
I'm very familiar with Nick's work. I don't think this virus is something that affects the majority of people.
Alright, I would bet that if I did a nutrigenomic analysis of your DNA - You're likely going to be a high protein or high saturated fat optimal person. And that any genetic nutrient deficiencies you're likely to have would be filled through ruminant meat.
It’s strange. I was talking to someone last week who had lost a lot of weight using these new drugs. She said “the food noise has gone”. I don’t doubt her but what struck me was that I’d never heard the term until these drugs arrived. It is a term introduced at the same time as the drugs.
I refuse to believe that the drugs are the only solution. There must be a cause - psychological, diet related, social.
From my personal experience, when I was suffering with food noise and I would tell people about how I was feeling, I didn't call it food noise because the language didn't exist. And people just thought I was completely insane.
"just stop eating", "you've had enough", "we just ate"
Interesting. One of the comments captures what I definitely had for the first 30 or so years of my life: I was, at any point in my life, basically ravenous, and food never gave me satiety. I could eat until I was physically bloated and it hurt, but I wasn't satiated. Insofar, "full" always seemed like a polite metaphor to me; of course I was full, but the pain was the only thing making me stop eating.
But all that went away within 6-12 months of starting keto. So I haven't really had "food noise" in 8+ years.
Maybe that's why I stuck with keto for so long; incredible quality of life change independent of actually losing/regaining fat.
I do think that "food noise" is basically your body starving on a biochemical level. You might have just eaten food, you might have lots of body fat you should theoretically be able to use. But your body somehow isn't able to get at it and so it is starving, and telling you that.
"Maybe that's why I stuck with keto for so long; incredible quality of life change independent of actually losing/regaining fat."- We see this for many people!
"I do think that "food noise" is basically your body starving on a biochemical level." - I think this is one of many drivers
Food Noise is SO REAL. It’s NOT willpower- it’s addiction and obsession. IT runs your life. The ONLY thing that I have found that absolutely calms it to a dull roar or COMPLETELY shuts it down is the No Carb ruminant meat Carnivore diet. Incredibly healing on all levels, incredibly freeing. I cannot overstate how EFFECTIVE this change in food intake is. I also know that taking 2K of l-tryptophan every night helps. Apparently they have now just discovered a small virus particle that lives in the brain and affects the tryptophan cycle in people who have this FOOD NOISE. Look up Nick Norwitz Food Addiction Virus vid on YouTube.
I'm very familiar with Nick's work. I don't think this virus is something that affects the majority of people.
Alright, I would bet that if I did a nutrigenomic analysis of your DNA - You're likely going to be a high protein or high saturated fat optimal person. And that any genetic nutrient deficiencies you're likely to have would be filled through ruminant meat.
I'm glad you found some peace.
It’s strange. I was talking to someone last week who had lost a lot of weight using these new drugs. She said “the food noise has gone”. I don’t doubt her but what struck me was that I’d never heard the term until these drugs arrived. It is a term introduced at the same time as the drugs.
I refuse to believe that the drugs are the only solution. There must be a cause - psychological, diet related, social.
There definitely is and from what we can see, we're the only people even attempting to solve that.
I’m wondering if it is part social contagion. ie no one experienced food noise until everyone started talking about it and legitimised it.
I seriously doubt it.
From my personal experience, when I was suffering with food noise and I would tell people about how I was feeling, I didn't call it food noise because the language didn't exist. And people just thought I was completely insane.
"just stop eating", "you've had enough", "we just ate"